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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:25:44 GMT -5
Try it…You’ll like it? One kid said, "What’s the matter Mr. Hovind, don’t you like beer?" I said, "I don’t know, I’ve never tasted it." I’ve never had a drop in my life! I’m 45 years old, folks, never tasted it! Well, I have had Nyquil a couple of times, but… And then they will say, how do you know you won’t like it if you don’t try it? Aw, kids that is a brilliant way to live. Let me ask you a question. Have you ever laid your head under a semi truck? Well, how do you know you won’t like it if you don’t try it? Did you ever dive off the roof into the concrete head first? Well, how do you know you won’t like it if you don’t try it? If you are one of those numbskulls that think you have to try everything to know if it is good or bad, you are not going to live very long. Let me give you some advice kids. Find out what God says in His Word and do it. It will save you lots of headaches. Or, you could get advice from your parents. Did you know, in nearly every state and country I travel to, I have discovered, parents are older than their children? Just maybe they know a few things you do not know. I know it is hard to believe, but think about it for a minute. It just might come to you. What we are doing here, we are brainwashing a group of kids into thinking beer goes with sports because they have heard it over and over and over and over again. It is brainwashing!
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:27:00 GMT -5
Lies in Our Textbooks Folks, that is exactly what is happening in our public school science text books. I collect science text books, I have hundreds of them. I taught science 15 years, I like science. I even have a Ph.D. in education (stands for "post-hole digger". I got one!). I am not against science, and I am not against schools; and my brother is retiring from public school teaching. My mom retired from public school teaching. There are many good godly public school teachers in the system. There are many good principals. There are many good districts. But, the curriculum they are working from is corrupt. There’s a poison mixed in here folks, you better warn the kids about it. Millions of Years? Let me show it to you. Here is a first grade textbook. Look what they tell the kids in first grade. "Earth has changed much since its formation 4 1/2 billion years ago." Now just hold on a minute. Is the earth 4 1/2 billion years old? No. But if you tell that to a first grader, he is gonna believe you. First graders believe everything you tell them. They believe bananas are moldy spider legs! They do! And then tell them again in second grade; here is the second grade textbook. "Since its formation 4 1/2 billion years ago, earth has changed." It says, "Life, too, has evolved on earth." Well, there’s that word evolved. That is a very tricky word! Micro vs. Macro We will cover a whole lot more on that on video tape number 4, but the word evolved has two different meanings that are unrelated. There is micro evolution which says dogs produce a variety of dogs. That is a fact! Roses produce a variety of roses; that is a fact! Micro evolution is scientific. It is observable, it is testable, it is scriptural. They bring forth after their kind. What they are going to do in school though, kids, they are going to show you this word "evolve" and make you think that the examples of micro evolution which they are able to give, is somehow magically evidence for macro evolution which is the other meaning of the word. Macro evolution would say the dog and the rose had a common ancestor and the common ancestor was a rock. You wait long enough, the rock will turn into a dog and a rose. See, the problem is that word evolve has two different meanings and they confuse them all the time and that is where the whole argument falls apart with Creation and Evolution. If you learn to distinguish between micro and macro right at the very beginning, and point out that macro is a religion—it is unsupported by science, it is dumb. Nobody has ever seen a dog produce a non-dog, and we will get into that in video tape number 4 with things in the textbooks that kids are being taught. But, they tell the kids here that life has evolved on earth and of course this was billions of years ago. The teachers are told to be sure to stress that the earth is billions of years old. We ought to be stressing real science in the classroom instead of stressing somebody’s religion. The idea is that the earth is billions of years old is a religious world view, it is not scientific. True Science You ought to be teaching them stuff like the first law of thermodynamics. The first law tells us matter and/or energy cannot be created or destroyed. Well, everything is made out of matter: the building is made out of matter. So, if matter cannot be created or destroyed, how did the world get here? We are here, you know? So that leaves only two choices. Somebody made the world or the world made itself; there is no other choice. Well, there are a few out there on a lunatic fringe who would say, "Oh, we are not really here at all, we just think we are here." Okay, you can forget about those folks. We are here! So either somebody made the world, or the world made itself. Now, the Devil does not want you to believe, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." He does not want you to believe that! So, the Devil had to think up a way for the world to make itself. So, he thought and he thought and he thought and he thought, and finally he came up with the Big Bang Theory. The Big Bang Theory How many have ever heard of the Big Bang Theory before? I was on an airplane years ago, flying from Dallas to San Francisco (the land of the fruits and the flakes), and I happened to sit right next to a professor from Berkeley University. I do not know if you folks here in Florida have ever heard of Berkeley or not, but Berkeley is not a Bible college by any stretch of the imagination. So, here I was sitting by this professor on the airplane and we started talking about Creation and Evolution. Seems like everybody I sit by on the plane wants to talk about that, so I talk about it with them. He said he believed in Evolution, I said, "Yes sir, I figured that, you have to to teach at Berkeley." I said, "Tell me sir, if you believe in Evolution, how did the world get here?" He said, "Well, it came from the Big Bang." I said, "Really, I’d like to hear about the Big Bang." He said, "You’re a science teacher and you have never heard of the Big Bang?" I said, "Oh, yes sir, I have heard a lot about the Big Bang, and I believe in the Big Bang, but my Big Bang is a lot different than yours. You tell me about your Big Bang and then I will tell you about my Big Bang."
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:28:12 GMT -5
The Big Bang Defined And so he proceeded to give me a textbook perfect answer. He said, "Well, I believe it all started about 18 to 20 billion years ago (that is a long time folks): all the matter in the universe (that is a lot of stuff) was concentrated into one very dense, very hot region that may have been much smaller than a period on this page." All the matter in the universe was squished into a dot smaller than a period on a page? That is one crowded dot, folks, and heavy, too: man, who held that thing up? Wow! Hey, and it ain’t the first time it happened, or the last. This textbook tells them, "Boys and girls, someday all the matter and energy will once again be packed into a small area. No bigger than the period at the end of this sentence. Then another Big Bang will occur. It happens every 80 to 100 billion years." Hey folks, you can forget about global warming, we are going to get squished! Some global squishing coming up! Call your Senator quick! Pass a law, "Prevent global squishing!" They put it in all the textbooks about this Big Bang Theory. Look at this one. I could not believe how smart this author was. He said, Boys and girls, "nothing really means nothing." You got to be at least that smart to write a textbook. He said, "Not only matter and energy would disappear, but also space and time; however, physicists theorize that from the state of nothingness, the universe began in a gigantic explosion." What? Nothing exploded, and here we are? Explain that to me, would you please? They even put it in major science journals. Here is Scientific American. Look what this guy said. "The observable universe (that is us) could have evolved from an infinitesimal region." (In the Greek, that means a dot.) He said, "It’s then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing." They call that science and put it in a science book? I would call that a fairy tale and put it in the garbage. ‘Yes, boys and girls, we all came from a dot and the dot came from nothing.’ That is ridiculous! But, that is what they believe. They do not have another choice except, "God created the heaven and the earth." So I asked the professor on the plane, I said, "Sir, hold on just a minute. Where did this dot come from and what happened to it?" He said, "Well, all the matter, all the dirt in the universe, was drawn into this dot and it was spinning, it spun faster and faster and faster. Finally it exploded! Big bang, and the pieces flew off and became the galaxies, sun, moon, stars, and finally you know, people—here we are." Perplexing Questions "Sir, could I ask you a few questions please?" He said, "Sure what would you like to know?" I said, "Well, first of all, you told me 20 billion years ago, all the dirt in the universe got into the big dot, for the big squish, in the big spin, in the big bang. Where did all the dirt come from?" He said, "Well, we don’t, we don’t know about that." I said, "Okay, now hold on sir, just a minute, if I tell you that I believe about 6000 years ago, God created the heaven and the earth, you are going to say ‘where did God come from.’ Uh, I don’t know. But, you said, ‘20 billion years ago, there was a Big Bang,’ and you don’t know where the dirt came from. So basically, I believe ‘in the beginning God…,’ and you believe ‘in the beginning dirt!’ Do not tell me my theory is religious and yours is scientific! No sir, they are both religious, the only difference is, your religion is tax supported. That is the difference. Evolution is the only tax supported religion we have in this country." So he did not know where the dirt came from. By the way folks, first of all, these two time lines that I have right here beside me, they are not the same scale. The Bible teaches that God made the world about 6000 years ago. Not millions and billions of years ago. 4400 years ago there was a Flood, 2000 years ago Jesus came, anything before this is called B.C., before Christ (except all the new textbooks have changed it now. It is called B.C.E., Before the Coulee Era, Christ is gone). Here we are today, waiting for the Lord to come back in about 10 minutes. Now the evolution time line which says 20 billion years ago there was a Big Bang. If I was to make this time line the same scale as this one, just this chart would have to be 2100 hundred miles long (that is from Pensacola, Florida, to Portland, Oregon). But, I do not want to carry a chart that big so I made a new scale for that one, Okay? Anyway, the professor said he did not know where the matter came from for the Big Bang. I said, "Well, sir, that makes it a religion, doesn’t it?" He said, "No, no, no!" I said, "It looks to me like it does. Something you believe, you believe in matter, like we believe in God. I don’t see a difference at all. Second question sir, where do the laws come from? The universe is governed by laws. Centrifugal force, inertia, gravity, who made the laws? Who is the law giver?" He said, "Well we don’t—we don’t know that either." I said, "Well, sir, where did the energy come from? Doesn’t it take energy to make something move?" He said, "Oh, yes!" I said, "Well, who bought the gas to run this machine anyway? Where did the energy come from?" He said, "Well, I don’t know about that." He said, "But, I know that it happened, because we’re here!" Wow, what brilliant logic, it had to happen that way, because here we are you know. Who could ask for anything more?
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:29:19 GMT -5
Berkeley’s Merry-Go-Round I said, "Sir, could I ask you another question?" He said, "Sure, what else would you like to know?" I thought, "Else? Else? You haven’t told me nothing yet!" I said, "Does Berkeley, where you teach have a merry-go-round?" How many of you know what a merry-go-round is (you go around and around till you puke)? Have you been on them before? Okay. He said, "No we don’t have a merry-go-round at Berkeley University." I said, "You ought to get one. Man, you could learn some good science off a merry-go-round." If you put 6 fourth graders on a merry-go-round, (any fourth graders? Who is going into fourth grade next year or was in fourth grade last year? Look at this, all right! I like fourth graders; I spent the best five years of my life in the fourth grade! I like using fourth graders for my science experiments because fourth graders are tough and they are expendable). We are going to put some fourth graders on the merry-go-round and we are going to get the high school football team out there to get it spinning clockwise as fast as it will possibly go. Now, if you have a digital watch, you may not know what clockwise means—see me later, I will explain that. We are going to spin the merry-go-round clockwise. The kids on there are going to go through four phases in this experiment. They start off in phase 1, they will be screaming and yelling at the football players. "Come on let’s go, faster, faster, can’t you go any faster?" They get up around 30 miles an hour; the kids enter phase 2. Phase 2 is where they stop screaming, they just quietly concentrate on trying to hang on for dear life. You get up around 60 miles an hour and the kids enter phase 3, that is where they start screaming again, but now they are screaming, "Stop, stop, please slow down!" Do not stop though; keep going faster and faster. When you get to about 100 miles an hour you should enter phase 4. Phase 4 in this experiment is where the kids begin to fly off the merry-go-round. Now, when this happens you will notice an interesting phenomena of physics. If the merry-go-round is going clockwise when the kid flies off, the kid will be spinning clockwise until he encounters resistance like a tree or telephone pole. That is because of a law in physics called the conservation of angular momentum. See, if a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment (which the Big Bang would have been all the matter in the one dot), a spinning object breaking apart in a frictionless environment will send all the pieces off spinning the same direction because the outer part is moving faster than the inner part. Simple physics. I mean it is father around the outside than it is the inside of the circle and so it maintains the same direction of spin. The professor said, "Yes, Mr. Hovind, I understand about the conservation of angular momentum." I said, "Well, good, sir. Would you answer me a question then please? If the whole universe started like a swirling dot, [then there was a] Big Bang, shouldn’t everything be spinning the same way?" He said, "Well, yes!" I said, "Well, it’s not. We have two planets for sure; Venus and Uranus and possibly Pluto, but two for sure spin backwards. Why do two planets spin backwards?" He said, "That’s interesting!" "No sir that’s more than interesting, that’s pretty hard on your Big Bang Theory. Not only that, some of the moons spin backwards and some travel backwards. Why?" He said, "I don’t know, why do you think they are going backwards?" I was hoping he would ask that. I said, "Sir I believe it is very simple. I believe in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, and God did it that way on purpose just to make the Big Bang Theory look stupid." And it is stupid, [and] it certainly is not science.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:30:34 GMT -5
The Biblical Big Bang Now I do believe in the Big Bang, folks. I mean the Bible teaches the Big Bang. II Peter 3 says, "The heavens shall pass away with a great noise." In the original Greek, that is big bang. So there is going to be a big bang, but it did not happen yet. So kids if you go to school and some teacher says, "Do you believe in the Big Bang?" You could say, "Yes I do, and you better get saved and get ready for it! The Big Bang is coming soon!" The Second Law of Thermodynamics Now the second law of thermodynamics tells us everything tends toward disorder—everything is falling apart, nothing gets better by itself. You leave things alone for awhile and they fall apart, folks. Nothing gets better! The Bible teaches that, Hebrews 1 says, "The heavens are the works of thy hands, they shall perish; they wax old as doth a garment." Nothing gets better by itself. Take a look at your hairdo when you wake up in the morning. You will see exactly what I am talking about. Nothing gets better by itself. Everything tends toward chaos. Ah, but the textbook says, boys and girls, things are getting better. Yes, boys and girls, humans probably evolved from bacteria. They lived more than 4 billion years ago. Was your great-great, great-great, great-great, great-great grandpa a bacteria? How about this textbook? It shows the kids a fossil starfish and it says, "3.4 billion years old, the remains of the early ancestors of modern human beings." Was your great-great, great-great, great-great, great-great grandpa a starfish? Boy I bet he could pick cotton like crazy. Okay, now please do not laugh at this next picture. This next picture will be a picture of my brother when he first wakes up in the morning, after his first cup of coffee which apparently was a little too strong. He will be on the left, please do not laugh now he cannot help it. There he is right there! Uh, I did not write this folks, I just took the picture out of the book. Look what we paid to teach the kids. By the way they cut down a tree to make this book. It says, "30 million years ago…." (Kids, let me translate that to you. Anytime a book says millions of years ago, here is what it means, it means, long ago and far away; it means a fairy tale is coming next. That is your warning right there, fairy tale coming up - be alert.) "30 million years ago these critters evolved. (Oh, there’s that word again, evolved!) They are ancestry to both humans and modern apes." Ancestors to humans? Grandpa? ‘What big eyes you have, Grandpa.’ ‘Ah, the better to see you with my boy!’ You know, we have been teaching the kids they are nothing but an animal, and today a lot of them act like animals. They cannot figure it out, can they? Even Barbara Reynolds figured it out and she is a liberal journalist. She said, "Your kids go ape in school, here’s why—he’s being taught evolution." "Guess what, Johnny? You’re an animal!" "Really? Okay! Let’s go get ‘em!" What do you expect? Here we are telling them they are an animal, there is no God, there is no Creator, there is no afterlife, and what do you expect? Of course that is the way they are going to live.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:31:36 GMT -5
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:32:34 GMT -5
Teaching Creation Science in Public School By the way, a lot of teachers do not realize they can teach Creation science in a public school. It is perfectly fine to teach Creation in a public school. Perfectly fine! Now, it is not okay to try to convert the kid to be a Baptist or Buddhist or Catholic, but it is okay to teach, "Hey kids there must have been a designer, your universe is incredibly designed, there must have been a creator—has to be." That is called Creation Science. Now, Biblical Creationism would be different. That you cannot teach in the school system—in the public school system. But regular scientific Creationism is perfectly fine. There are great books on that available; we have them at our ministry if you want to get one of those. You ought to give one to every public school teacher in your district. Let them know they can teach Creation science. Because all they get is information from the ACLU which is the ‘American Communist Lawyers Union’. They want you to think you cannot talk about Creation in the classroom, yes you certainly can talk about creation in the public school. But if a teacher does teach evolution, if some teacher teaches the kids we started off like a slime and slowly turned into a human, you do not need to be a genius to figure out that is going to ruin some kid’s faith in the Bible. Anybody that ruins a child’s faith in the Bible, better read what Jesus said about it in Matthew 18: "Whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Anyone that teaches evolution is in trouble when they face God. Do not get mad at me, you take it up with Jesus, He is the one that said it and you are going to stand before Him one of these days if you are teaching that dumb theory to your students.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:37:50 GMT -5
What Evolution has done for America But you know, it has not always been this way. Back in the 1930’s or 50’s, the average textbook only had two to three thousand words about evolution. It was not mentioned much. In 1963, it jumped up to 33,000 words; 1963 is when prayer and Bible reading was taken out of the American school system. Anybody remember that? A few got out, brought evolution in, same time. 1963 is when sexually transmitted diseases began to climb; this is for kids 10 to 14 years of age. 1963 is when divorce rates began to go up. I remember as a kid I did not know anybody that was divorced. Man, when you got married, you got married for life. You better pick slow, you are going to be stuck for a long time. 1963 is when violent crimes began to increase, you know there has been almost a 1000% increase in violent crimes since ‘63? Folks, I am not that old, but I remember the days when you did not have to lock your house. Anybody else remember those days? It was that way was it not? You never took the keys out of the ignition, Man you might lose them, you left them in there all the time. Am I telling the truth? That is the way it used to be right here in this country. What happened? We are teaching the kids they are an animal, there is no right and wrong now. What do you expect? Unwed birth rates for girls 10 to 14 years of age have increased 100%. The pregnancies are up 550%; most of them are being aborted—murdered. We will talk more about that on tape number 4. Things have changed folks. The SAT scores have dropped off since 1963 tremendously. A couple of years ago they had to "dumb down" the SAT tests. Now President Clinton is saying, "SAT scores are coming up!" Uh, they dumbed down the tests, Sir. "Oh, is that what happened?" Unmarried couples living together in adultery has increased 725. God’s Word has not changed at all. "sleepermongers and adulterers, God will judge," Hebrews 13. Culture is falling apart. Teen suicide rate has increased dramatically.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:38:38 GMT -5
Evolution Fairy Tale Look, if I told you, if you kiss a frog, it will turn into a prince, you would say, "No, Brother Hovind, frogs do not turn to princes." How many of you ladies got your husband by kissing a frog? Let me see. Only two. See, it does not happen much anymore. Oh, but in the textbooks it does. Yes boys and girls, start off with an amoeba and over billions of years, it slowly turns to a frog. And over a few more million years it turns into a prince. Same fairy tale, frog to prince, but new magic ingredient! Instead of a kiss, nope, they now have a super-duper, high-powered magic ingredient called billions and billions of years. How many have ever heard that expression before, billions of years ago. It is in all the textbooks, it is on the TV programs, it is on Carl Pagan’s—Sagan’s—show, Cosmos. Billions and billions of years ago, it is in the magazines you read, it is in National Pornographic—Geographic I mean—billions and billions of years ago, just like it is some kind of factor of science. Don’t you dare question this, folks, or you will be excommunicated from the temples of higher learning. They even start the kids off in kindergarten. Here is a fourth grade textbook, "Many millions of years ago...". Just like it is a fact. Now kids, here is what you need to do, when you are in school and some teacher says, "Millions of years ago," just say, "Excuse me teacher, were you there?" They will say, "No, of course I wasn’t there millions of years ago." And say, "Teacher, do you know the earth is millions of years old or do you believe the earth is millions of years old?" See, that is not something you can know. You cannot test it, demonstrate it, prove it; you can only believe it. That is part of your religion, not part of a science. The earth cannot be billions of years old, in spite of all the propaganda to the contrary, it can only be a few thousand years old which we will cover here in just a minute.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:40:09 GMT -5
The Many Failures of Science Most Americans though do not believe the earth is billions of years old. The last survey showed 61% of the population said the earth is less than ten thousand years old and God made it pretty much like it is today. Only 4% of the people surveyed said the earth—there’s no God involved and it’s pure evolution that brought us here over billions of years. Well, I think that 4% ought to go start a private school and teach evolution and whoever wants to pay and come learn it, and they ought to get it out of our public school system. That is my humble opinion about it. A bigger question than that is, should we even have a public school system? Might be a bigger question to ponder—better read your Constitution on that one—I’d say the answer is no. You say, "wait a minute now Brother Hovind, most scientists think the earth is billions of years old." Well, I do not know if you can prove that or not. A lot of scientists think the earth is billions of years old, but that does not make it billions of years old. You do not change facts by majority opinion. A lot of scientists at one time thought all the planets go in little epicycles around the earth. Not true. That is what they all thought. They used to teach big rocks fall faster than little rocks. That was taught for 2000 years! Not true! They used to teach if you were sick you have bad blood. Take out your blood, you’ll get better. That is how George Washington died; the guys that killed George were not stupid, they were very intelligent, highly trained, they were trying to help, and they were wrong in what they believed.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:41:32 GMT -5
Age of the Earth Kids, you may have a teacher that is very intelligent, very sincere, good teacher, I do not care, it does not matter. But if they are telling you the earth is billions of years old, they are wrong. The earth cannot be billions of years old, I will show you. Shipwreck Illustration If you went scuba diving and found a treasure chest full of gold coins, and I asked you the simple question, when did the boat sink? You said, "I don’t know?" Well, look at the dates on the coins. If there is a coin in there from 1750, you ought to be able to figure out that the boat sank after 1750. How many can figure that out with no help? Okay. Let’s apply that same logic to fossils. If you find a fossil, I have got a table full of stuff for the kids to play with, right here is a real dinosaur toe bone. A toe bone from a dinosaur. You should notice two things about this toe bone immediately: number one, it does not talk. Number two, it does not have a date stamped on it. This does not say manufactured by a brachiosaurus in 70 million B.C. in Taiwan. It doesn’t say that! What God Says So how do you tell the age of fossils, how do you tell the age of the earth? Go get a shovel full of dirt out of the yard and tell me how old it is. Get out in space and look at the world and just look at it and tell me how old is it? Look, the only way to tell for sure how old something is, is to ask the guy who made it, he ought to know. And the Bible says pretty clearly that God created the heaven and the earth. God should know the age of this place; He is the one that created it. And Jesus, according to Colossians 1, Jesus created the earth, which means Jesus has to be God Almighty in the flesh. Jesus said pretty clearly since He is the One who created the earth, He ought to know. He said in Matthew 19, "Have ye not read that He which made them at the beginning, made them male and female." By the way, it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Same thing in Mark 10 [verse 6], it was the beginning of the creation when God made them male and female. The Bible’s Answer Well, if that was the beginning, than we can calculate the age of the earth because the Bible says that Adam was the first man. Pretty obvious the Bible clearly teaches that and there was no death until Adam sinned, according to Romans 5 and I Corinthians 15. And it says, "Adam lived 130 years, and begat a son and named him Seth. Seth lived 105 years and begat Enos. Enos lived 90 years and begat Canaan." I mean the dates are all given in the Bible in Genesis 5 and Genesis 11 and a few other places if you add up the dates in the Bible, about like what I have on this chart, I’ve got that chart in my seminar notebook. If you get a set of my videotapes, the seminar notebook comes with it free; the last page of the notebook folds out to be this chart—this timeline which we have put together showing from the dates given in the Bible how old they were when their son was born and you know, just stepping it over, all scaled out like that. If you add up the dates in the Bible, it comes to about 6000 years ago...not millions and billions. Somebody is wrong about the age of the earth. Anybody that says the earth is billions of years old is calling Jesus a liar. I am not one of these guys that tries to put an exact date on the creation. I do not say that it was 4004 B.C., October 23, at two in the afternoon. I do not think you can get that close from Scripture. I think Adam was made in the afternoon because it was just before Eve—only clue I found! (I cannot prove this, but I think I figured out why God made Adam first. I think God made Adam first because He did not want any advice on how to do it. How many would tend to agree with that one. I think that’s - Oh! Four brave men. "No, God, you are doing it wrong!" "Quiet Eve, I know what I am talking about.") Anyway, the dates from Scripture add up to about 6000.
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:42:27 GMT -5
Typical Scoffers’ Attacks Now, I do lots of debates at universities; I have had 39 of them now, only one more scheduled. It is hard to find an opponent. I even offered $10,000 for anybody with evidence for evolution, please let’s have a debate on this. It is very hard to find an opponent. I have had roughly 3500 radio and TV call-in talk shows; I always get some skeptic to call in and say, "Uh, Mr. Hovind, Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel, Cain killed Abel. Then they had Seth, who did their sons marry?" Like, ‘Boy, we got you now, don’t we?’ I said, "Look, fellow, if you believe in Evolution, you got a much worse problem than I do. You have to get two cells to evolve out of the rocks in the same place of the opposite sex at the same time in history. It is a big world you know? Cells are kind of small; they have to find each other. You’ve got a bunch of problems I do not have. I do not have a problem because my Bible says pretty clearly, ‘Adam lived after he begat Seth eight hundred years and begat sons and daughters’." How many kids could you have in 800 years? Several, right? So, in the first generation they married sisters. They married sisters? Well, no, calm down. In the first place, there is no other choice; secondly, who are you going to report them to? Think about it. Thirdly, there were no laws against it till 2,500 years later when Moses gave the law. They did not need laws against that because there were no deformed chromosomes. It would be okay to marry your sister, you would not have any deformed children. Today you marry someone closer than a first cousin, you are asking for a genetic disaster for the next generation. But that was not the case when the race was pure and clean. See, everything about you is inherited. Even having children is hereditary, if your parents do not have any, you will not either. Wow, he is right! People say now wait a minute now, you cannot marry your sister, what about genetic similarity. Adam married his rib, talk about genetic similarity! It is not a problem in the first generation. By the way, you will not notice this reading your Bible, but when you graph it out, you will notice something strange. Did you know Adam lived long enough to know his great-great, great-great, great-great, great grandson? Noah’s daddy knew Adam for 56 years. Can you imagine a family reunion back in those days? All right kids - everybody hop onthe camel! We are going to go visit great-great-great-great-great-great Grandpa Adam, and he is going to tell us what it was like in the Garden on Eden, before the first woman ate the first man out of house and home, or whatever happened back then. Anyway, one lady, I was telling a bunch of Adam and Eve jokes, she said, "Well just where would you men be without us women?" I said, "In the Garden of Eden, that’s obvious!" But it would be lonely; it would not be worth it! Continued on Part 1B www.algonet.se/~tourtel/hovind_seminar/seminar_part1b.html
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Post by Charity on Jun 16, 2005 11:55:13 GMT -5
How Old Is My House? By: Nutrider99
(this is an article from a friend of mine)
A man was purchased a house and wanted to know its age. He called a friend of his who was a biologist. The man examined the pine doors and said the house was 65 years old. He checked with another friend, also a biologist, who examined the oak cabinets and said the house was 125 years old. Still another friend who worked at Sears examined the refrigerator and said the house was three years old. A geologist friend examined the stones in the fireplace and said the house was 800,000,000 years old. Finally the man called the builder. The builder informed him that he had built the house 10 years ago so it was, in fact, 10 years old.
Hmmm. What does this all mean?
In Genesis 5, verse 5, we read; "And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died." Question: How old was Adam when he died?
Adam was, we know, created intact as a man. This would mean that he was an adult of at least twenty years development when he came into existence. Added to the above, he would be at least 950 years old. He was standing on an earth that was created intact. Some of that earth, though days old, had mineralogical makeup equivalent to millions, perhaps billions of years.
Perhaps this might explain why I laugh so much at the ignorance of our evo’ contributors. They see small pieces of a puzzle and jump to the conclusion that they know all about the puzzle. They don’t have the first clue, because they refuse to believe what the Creator told them.
If the universe was created intact 6,000 years ago, the geological and astronomical clocks would NOT be set at zero. Why? Because the universe was created intact! Animals were created INTACT with instincts to reproduce and to stay alive, and with the ability to adapt to their environments. Systems that would take a billion years to evolve even with the hand of God advancing them were created overnight at His word.
How is this possible? It is not. Neither is any scenario or theory that scientists can put forward possible to explain the creation of the universe. However, that which is impossible for man is not impossible for God. Matthew 19, verse 26: "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
People like ___ froth at the mouth and say, "Why would God plant all this evidence to deceive us if evolution wasn’t possible." The answer is simple. You looked at data and misinterpreted it. You left out the most important piece of the puzzle, without which none of creation could have happened—God. God explained in detail how He created the heavens and the earth. You try to explain by the laws of science that which cannot have occurred according to the laws of science.
When this is explained to evo’s they go off into tangents about how Christians are ignorant, and how we don’t know science- specifically that we don’t understand how the unbendable rules of science can be distorted to allow for the concept of evolution. While they don’t know these answers themselves, they insist that it is possible that the universe was crapped out of the black hole of a parallel universe, or that the universe simply always existed. What always existed, and what WILL always exist is God. God is eternal. This universe will pass away, but He lives forever.
You see, God did not deceive man by planting evidence of an old earth. God created an old earth intact to be a suitable living environment for the animals and man, which He also created intact. It’s really not that complicated. It’s funny, though, to what lengths those who deny God will go to try and prove how everything came about without His hand, and vehemently they will defend even the most fool theories so long as they promote the atheist agenda. __________________ Nutrider
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